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History

It would appear that from 1912 a model number was introduced. This was 40. The following year a model number 53 was introduced. Until 1922 "40" seemed to be it, 43,46, 47. Then suddenly in 1923 a model 30 appeared. This seemed to be the number used until 1928, from then it became a year thing. Model 28 in '28, 29 in '29 etc. In 1939, three series were introduced, 60, 70 and 80, and 90 in 1940. It then follows that a series 60 with a six cylinder engine is a 66 and so on, although the 80 series was not used again untill 1948 when the Rocket 88 was introduced.

Back in the early 40's Olds model names were: Series 60 Special (available with a straight six of straight eight, hence 66 or 68), Series 70 Dynamic Cruiser (76 or 78) and Series 90 Custom Cruiser (96 or 98, yes, there was a 96, in '41). Eventually the Series 60 was dropped (after '48), the Series 70 became the 76 (only available with a 6, starting in '49) and the six was dropped from the 90 Series and that model was known as the Series 90 Custom 8 Cruiser and eventually the Ninety Eight.

The first 90 series car I think was in 1940, but it only had a 6 cyl, hence "96". In 1941 they added an 8 cyl so I think that was the first "98". I remember that in 1991 Olds made a 50th anniversary Olds "98" Regency. BTW, before the 90 series was introduced the top line Olds was the 80 series; this included the 60 (Special Series), the 70 (Dynamic Cruiser Series) and the 80 (Custom Cruiser Series). The 90 series was also called the Custom Cruiser. Prior to 1939, Olds had the F-series and the L-series. The L was the luxury line. Source: Dennis Casteele's The Cars of Oldsmobile Tom Adams, Grand Haven, MI

In '49, there were originally only two models the Ninety Eight (with the new Rocket engine) and the 76. If didn't take the factory long to figure out they could put that V8 in the lighter 76 body styles and have a pretty hot car. Although this model was never referred to as the 80 Series, I guess the factory figured that 8 was a natural to come between 7 and 9. These models were only available with the V8 engine, hence the 88.

The Delta 88 was the base model from 1969 (when the Delmont 88 was discontinued) to 1982 (When the base Delta 88 was dropped). The "Royale" was the high line 88 from 1969 through 1978. In 1979 the "Royale Brougham" interior option debuted. It basically consisted of "loose cushion" look seatbacks and "98" caliber fabrics. This became a separate model with unique exterior ID in 1980.

From 1980 through 1983 the "Royale Brougham" was the top line 88. In 1984 the RWD 98 was dropped for its FWD successor. The "Delta 88 Royle Brougham LS" was added to the line to woo fallen away 98 buyers turned off by the '85 98's new small FWD platform. It used lots of left over parts ('80 88 Royale Borugham scripts on the front fenders, '77-81 98 LS ebmlems on the sail panels, '80-'84 98 back up lamps, '82-'84 98 Regency Brougham seats, '84 98 grille ('84) or '85 98 grille ('85), etc.) and a few unique pieces (solid red tail lights) on an 88 platform. It was the top of the line 88.

Officially, there were only two body styles on the 88 from '77 to '85. The "town sedan" ("69") and the "coupe" ("37"). There was, however, a variation on the roofline in ''77-'79. The '78 and '79 coupes ordered with the padded half vinyl roof got a thicker "B" pillar and smaller quarter windows.

In response to Greg's comments, the Custom Cruiser was on the same 116" wheelbase as the Delta 88 and other "B" body cars. The '77-'79 Custom Cruisers also used a Chevrolet body. The only Olds parts other than some trim were the hood and nose cone.

The '77 Delta coupe with the Pontiac / Buick LeSabre roof is also featured in Helen Early's book on page 391. This was the original plan for the Delta 88. Olds had enough clout in GM at the time to get $$$ for an Olds only roof line for the '77-'79 Delta 88 coupes.

[ Thanks to Paul Hartlieb, Tom and Gail Adams, Fred Nissen for this information. ]

Delta 88, Eighty-Eight, 88

The first 88 was in the 1949 model year. Various designations have been around: 88, Super 88 (starting in 1951, last in 1964), Dynamic 88 (1958-1966), Jetstar 88 (1964-1966), Delmont 88 (1967-68), and Delta 88 (1965-present).

The Delta name was first used in 1965, as an upscale package on the Dynamic 88 (according to the catalog that year they were known as Dynamic 88 Deltas). The Delta name has never been associated with the Ninety Eight. The Delta Custom appeared in '67, and the Delta Royale in '69. In '79 (?) they brought out the Delta 88 Royale Brougham. At some point in the late 80s/early 90s, they changed from Delta 88 to 88 Royale, and just a few years ago the Royale was dropped, and they are now known simply as Eighty Eights, with the exception of the LSS. Understand?

[ Thanks to Paul Hartlieb for this information. ]

Dynamic 88

It happened right after WWII. 1946 had the dynamic series of 66, 68, 76, 78, and yes, the Dynamic 98. It was a part of the promotion of the Hydra-matic drive that was introduced in 1939, for the 1940 model year. The automatic transmission was perfected (so to speak) in the tanks, so soldiers that may have lost a limb could operate the tanks w/o pushing a clutch.

From 1946 to 1948, Oldsmobile gave a new Olds to every soldier missing a limb. A new car with the Hydra-matic automatic transmission, to help promote the sales of Oldsmobiles with the hydramatic. The owner had to add the extras, e.g., turn signals, enlarged break pedal, interior and exterior rear view mirrors, heat, windshield washer, back up lights, etc.

Since the body style was still the prewar design, they used the term "dynamic" for the smart lines of the car, and the smart grill the car had. The slogan was, "it's smart to own a(n) (Dynamic) Olds". In 1948 the bodystyles started to change to the 48-53 design that many may know of with the V-8 engine (the rocket engine). In 1949 the Dynamic 88 was introduced.

As for the 66, 68, 76, 78, and 98, the first of the two numbers represent the body size. The 60 series was the smallest with a 119" wheel base. The second number was the number of cylinders. So a dynamic 66 was the smallest car with an in-line 6 cylinder engine (238 cu in) and a base price of $1,733. The 68 was the same car but with an in-line 8 cylinder engine.

Futurmatic 88

Came about in mid 1948.

Holiday 88

The 1978 to 1981 Holiday 88 was like a Pace car: full size car with a console (!), Calais style bucket seats, floorshift console, and big Rally wheels with huge center caps. This was a bucket and console option for the base Delta 88 Coupe, which also included sport mirrors, sport steering wheel and color keyed wheel discs. Option availability was as for the regular Delta 88. Special "Holiday 88" tags on the outside rear sail panel identify this model.

Jetstar 88

The Jetstar 88 series didn't run "full size" car components in it's drive train. It shared its drivetrain components with the Cutlass line. It was the only big car that year to run the 330 small block, the two-speed Jetaway trans and the small 9.5 inch drum brakes with the small 4.75 bolt circle wheels.

Ninety-Eight, 98

98s were known as 98s or Ninety Eights (depending on the year) starting in 1941. The Regency name was added in '72 (it was a special anniversary model that year). The Regency Brougham made an appearance in 1982. Somewhere in the early 90s the 98 Regency Elite was added. Nowdays they are simply known a the Regency, being based on the Delta, which isn't even the Delta anymore, but is simply called Eight Eight.

[ Thanks to Paul Hartlieb, Fred Nissen for this information ]

Super 88

During the 50's to early 60's, there were very few mechanical differences between a Dynamic and a Super 88. The main two are:

[ Thanks to Paul Hartlieb for this information ]

Limo, Ambulance, Hearse

Someone asked the question about whether Olds made a limo. Olds made ambulances and hearses for a few years, but by my records they only made production limos in one year, 1968.

1968
Model 9840 = Ambulance
Model 9850 = Limousine
Model 9890 = Hearse

The Ninety Eight's that year had a model code in the 8400 or 8600 range. Delta 88's were model 6400 or 6600. So these "special" vehicles were not exactly built on top of another Olds model, or at least the VIN's were distinct.

The VIN should be something like 398508Mxxxxxx. The "xxxxxx" is the build plant sequence number. This VIN also assumes the limo was built in Lansing.

1969
Model 9840 = Ambulance
Model 9890 = Hearse

1970
Model 9840 = Ambulance
Model 9890 = Hearse

1971
Model 8840 = Ambulance
Model 8890 = Hearse

A standard Olds 98 window will not fit in this vehicle. Most Hearses and Ambulances were built by Cotner/Bevington on 98 chassis. These vehicles had doors with window frames whereas regular production 98 sedans were all pillarless hardtops. Also, these C/B units stand much taller than a regular production car. I doubt that even the windshields interchange.

[ Thanks to Drew Senko, Paul Hartlieb for this information ]


Production

'66' -- '60' series body with a I-6 engine
'68' -- '60' series body with a V-8 engine
'76' -- '70' series body with an I-6 engine
'78' -- '70' series body with a V-8 engine
'88' -- '80' series body with a V-8 engine
'98' -- '90' series body with a V-8 engine

The Delmont was only available in 1967 and 1968 and it came standard with the 330 in 1967, the 350 in 1968, and the 425 was an option. They were a replacement for the Dynamic 88 of earlier years, and were replaced by the base Delta 88 line in 1969. Olds originally thought of calling the this model the Delrado (Delmont-Toronado) but changed it to Delmont at the last minute. These were full size 88 bodies with more entry level trim. Standard engines were smaller than Delta models, but Delta and 98 engines were optional.

The Jetstar 1 was built from 1964 to 1966. It was a companion to the Jetstar 88, and used the notchback Starfire body. It was intended as a lower priced alternative to the Starfire, and came with less standard equipment, according to the article. For example, whereas the Starfire came standard with leather interior and auto trans, the Jetstar 1 came standard with 3-speed manual (I doubt many came this way) and vinyl interior. Although the article listed production figures, it was darn few and much rarer than the Starfire for all years. Externally, the Jetstar 1 had much less chrome and ornamentetion than the Starfire, also.

The Delmont, Dynamic, and Delta were all 88's. The Jetstar and Delmont came with smaller engine (330/350) and transmission (Jetway). The rest of the range came with the larger engine (425/455) and transmission (Turbo Hydramatic).

From 1969 and onward, the full size line up consisted of just the 88 (in a form of Delta or Royale) and 98. In all years, the long wheel base full size was the 98.

The Oldsmobile X8 model line is as follows (from bare bones to all the goodies and luxury) for the different years:


1949:

Model Units Weight Price Notes
76 1545 Station wagons
88 1355 Station wagons
98 3006 Convertibles


1950:

Model Units Weight Price Notes
76 368 Station wagons
76 973 Convertibles
76 538 Holiday Coupes
76 3364 2 door club coupes
88 2382 Convertibles
98 3925 Convertibles
98 8263 Holiday Coupes
98 1778 4 door Town Sedans


1951:

Model Units Weight Price Notes
88 7328 Club coupes
Super 88 3844 Convertibles
98 4468 Convertibles


1952:

Model Units Weight Price Notes
88 6402 2 door sedans
Super 88 5162 Convertibles
Super 88 2050 Club coupes
98 3544 Convertibles


1953:

Model Units Weight Price Notes
Fiesta 458 Convertibles.
98 7521 Convertibles.


1954:

Model Units Weight Price Notes
Super 88 6452 Convertibles
Classic 98 6800 Convertibles


1955:

Model Units Weight Price Notes


1956:

Model Units Weight Price Notes
88, 122" wheel base
2d sedan 31,949 3,691 $2,442
4d sedan 57,092 3,748 $1,487
Holiday HT Coupe 74,739 3,741 $2,599
Holiday HT Sedan 52,239 3,797 $2,671
Super 88, 122" wheel base
2d sedan 5,465 3,717 $2,547
4d sedan 59,728 3,768 $2,640
Holiday HT Coupe 43,054 3,771 $2,808
Holiday HT Sedan 61,192 3,869 $2,881
Convertible 9,561 4,033 $3,031
98, 126" wheel base
4d sedan 20,105 4,028 $3,298
Holiday HT Coupe 19,433 4,080 $3,480
Holiday HT Sedan 42,620 4,167 $3,551
Starfire Conv. 8,581 4,325 $3,740

Model 563611, 88 Two Door Sedan
Model 563637, 88 Holiday Coupe
Model 563669, 88 Four Door Sedan
Model 563639, 88 Holiday (4-door) Sedan
Model 563667DTX, Super 88 Convertible
Model 563669 D, Super 88 Four Dour Sedan
Model 563611 D, Super 88 Two Door Sedan
Model 563637SD, Super 88 Holiday Coupe
Model 563639SD, Super 88 Holiday Sedan


1957:

Model Units Weight Price Notes
88
4 door hardtop station wagons 5,767
4 door station wagons 5,052
Convertibles 6,423
4 door Holiday sedans 3,830
Super 88
Convertibles 7,128
2 door sedans 4,002
Classic 98
Starfire convertibles 8,278


1958:

Model Units Weight Price Notes

Transmissions available were a four speed hydramatic or a three speed standard.

[ Thanks to Ernie Johnson for this information ]


1959:

Model Units Weight Price Notes


1960:

Model Units Weight Price Notes
Dynamic 88


1961:

Model Units Weight Price Notes
Starfire
Convertible 7,600

All 1961 Starfire's had bucket seats, but none had AM/FM. They all had 394's and leather interiors. All were convertibles. The leather interior and aluminum trim are difficult and expensive to replace. There were more Starfire convertibles made in 1961 than they did in any other year from 1962 to 1965.


1962:

Model Units Weight Price Notes
Starfire
Convertible 7,149 Hardtop now available.


1963:

Model Units Weight Price Notes


1964:

Model Units Weight Price Notes
Jetstar 88
Jetstar I
Dynamic 88
Super 88
Starfire
98

Last year for the Super 88 model.


1965:

In '65-'66 the low end was the Jetstar 88 powered by the F85 series 330 engine and usually equipped with the jetaway 2 speed auto. Dynamic was mid line, Delta was on top (not counting the Starfire or '65 Jetstar I which shared many 88 body pieces, but had a unique roof line and backlight.)

Model Units Weight Price Notes
Jetstar 88
Brushed aluminum Instrument panel. Built on a larger body than 1964. 330 CID.
Jetstar I
Brushed aluminum Instrument panel. Built on a larger body than 1964. 425 CID.
Dynamic 88
Brushed aluminum Instrument panel. Built on a larger body than 1964. 425 CID.
Delta 88
Brushed aluminum Instrument panel. Built on a larger body than 1964.
Starfire
This is the next to last year for the Starfire luxury coupe. It is offered in both & convertible. Standard equipment includes T-stick controlled Turbo-Hydramatic transmission, power steering, power brakes, courtesy lamps, bucket seats, center control console, tachometer, padded dash, parking brake signal lamp, DeLuxe steering wheel, special wheel covers, windshield washers & electric wipers, power windows, & power seat. Upholstery was done in vinyl, leather or cloth.

There were 13,024 coupes & 2,236 convertibles. Built on a larger body than 1964. Strong competition came from the Jetstar I which had much of the Starfire features at a lower price.

The engine was a 425 V-8 4-barrel Q-Jet (ist year); 10.25 compression ratio; 370 hp at 4800 rpm.

98
98s had a simulated walnut Instrument panel. Built on a larger body than 1964.

[ Thanks to Bill Culp, Paul Hartlieb, Frederick Nissen for this information ]


1966:

In '65-'66 the low end was the Jetstar 88 powered by the F85 series 330 engine and usually equipped with the jetaway 2 speed auto. Dynamic was mid line, Delta was on top (not counting the Starfire or '65 Jetstar I which shared many 88 body pieces, but had a unique roof line and backlight.)

Model Units Weight Price Notes
Jetstar 88 30,247
Dynamic 88 95,834
Delta 88 88,626
Starfire 13,019
98 88,494
Convertibles

2-door hardtop = Holiday Coupe
4-door hardtop = Holiday Sedan
2-door pillared = Celebrity Coupe
4-door pillared = Celebrity Sedan
[ Thanks to Paul Hartlieb, Dan Gulino, Frederick Nissen for this information ]


1967:

In '67 the Delmont was the low line car, Delta was mid level, and the top of the line was the Delta Custom. This had wide side trim like that of the now departed Starfire, but was available as a hardtop sedan as well as a coupe. Deltas and Delta Customs were all 425 powered. Delmonts could come with either the 330 or 425.

The 67 Delta two door hardtop came in two trim levels, Delta and Delta Custom. The Custom was a dressier, flashier model with brushed aluminium down the sides, faux taillights set in the bumper, bucket seats and center console. The interior was more plush. The lines were, imho, exquisite. The base engine was a two barrel 425. Options ranged to a 375 HP dual exhaust four barrel Starfire engine. Gorgeous cars.

Model Units Weight Price Notes
Delmont 88
Delta 88
Delta 88 Custom
98
Luxury Sedan
Holiday Coupe

[ Thanks to Frederick Nissen, Peter Berusch for this information ]


1968:

Model Units Weight Price Notes
Delmont 88
Delta 88
98

In 1968, the Delmont 88 came with the base 350 2BBL, 4BBL option or 425. The THM 350 was the trans for the 350 4BBL car. The shifter was marked PRNDSL, without a locking steering column. That was the last year before the locking column became standard.

[ Thanks to Thomas Martin for this information ]


1969:

Model Units Weight Price Notes
88
98

455's were available in different forms: 365@4600, and 390@5000 for the GT. The 390 HP 455 (Delta GT) was an option for the standard Delta line as well as the Delta Custom and the Royale. It included a 4bbl carb and dual exhaust.

Police Apprehender Equipment was only available on the Delta 88 Custom and Delta 88 in '69, according to the Product Selling manual. City Cruiser equipment included heavy-duty shock absorbers, front and rear springs and front stabilizer bar. Highway Patrol equipment included the same heavy-duty shocks and front bar with heavier-duty springs and a rear stabilizer bar and reinforced lower control arms. Certified Police Speedometer and performance engines were seperate options that were once part of the Apprehender Packages.

[ Thanks to Paul Hartlieb for this information. ]


1970

Model Units Weight Price Notes
Delta 88
98

The last Ninety-Eight convertible was made in the 1970 model year. The last Delta 88, and Olds convertible for a while, was made in 1975.


1971

Model Units Weight Price Notes
Delta 88
98

The 1971 through 1976 98s all shared the same basic body style, and the 88s of the same vintage were similar in appearance. In fact, one usually had to look at the tail lights to tell which was which. The 98s looked different in the rear in that they had thin vertical tailights, rather than the more rounded ones that the 88s had. The fronts looked the same except that by 1975, the 98s had gone to rectangular headlights, while the 88s still had round. In 1976, the last year of the really big models, both had rectangular. But in 1972, all had round headlights.


1972

Model Units Weight Price Notes
Delta 88
2 dr coupe 32036
4 dr holiday sedan 35538
4 dr town sedan 46092
Delta 88 Royal
2 dr coupe 34345
4 dr holiday sedan 42606
4 dr town sedan 34150
2 dr convertible 3900
98
2 dr holiday coupe 13111
2 dr luxury coupe 24453
4 dr sedan 17572
4 dr luxury sedan 69920
[ Thanks to Bill Culp for this information ]


1973

Model Units Weight Price Notes
Delta 88
98 455 Standard


1974

Model Units Weight Price Notes
Delta 88
98 455 Standard


1975

Model Units Weight Price Notes
Delta 88
The lineup was 350 4BBL, 400 4BBL (Pontiac) and the 455. The convertible was last available in 1975.
98 455 Standard


1976

Model Units Weight Price Notes
Delta 88
Delta 88 Royale
The 1976 Delta 88 came with a 350 4BBL as base engine, EPA rating of 13/17 mpg and the 455 was optional, 12/18 mpg. In 1976 there was a rare option Holiday Coupe. The car had no back side windows and landau style vinyl top with a targa strip.
98 455 Standard
Last year for the 455.

That was the last year of the '71-'76 body style, before they downsized for the '77 model year. They went to the more "modern" square headlights, which is a distinguishing feature of the '76's. The Royale was the top-of-the-line 88, I believe, but still one step down from the 98. Air bags were available as an option, as were 8-track and cassette players, as well as a factory-installed CB (ah, a real period piece!).

[ Thanks to Thomas Martin for this information ]


1977

Model Units Weight Price Notes
Delta 88
2 door 8,788
4 door 26,084
Royale 2 door 61,138
Royale 4 door 117,571
2,401 Indy Pace car replicas (W44) were built, which cost $914 more than the base model.
98
Luxury 2 door 5,058
Luxury 4 door 14,323
Regency 2 door 32,072
Regency 4 door 87,970

Delta 88 Pace Car
Pace Car option was only available on model N37, Delta 88 Royale Coupe Paint code is 13-13 w/o vinyl top, 13-BB with vinyl top. Top was black only and ran from the rear edge of the side 1/4 windows forward. Trim code 45 (bench seat) or 65 (split bench). Red velor interior. Option code was W44. I doubt that'll show anywhere except on a build sheet. W44 included:

Only 2401 were made and many of those were painted over just in order to sell them.

A.J. Foyt won the Indy that year. There were approximately 4 Engineer Models prepped for the race and these had roof top removed (similar to T-tops), dual exhaust and sway bars. These items were not available for production though. Estimated current value for one of these is about $3000 to $10,000 for one of these now depending on it's condition. Hopefully with the limited number produced, that dollar value will increase.

[ Thanks to Brian Alling, Mike Jones, Paul Hartlieb for this information. ]


1978

Model Units Weight Price Notes
Delta 88
2 door 17,469
4 door 25,322
Royale 2 door 68,469
Royale 4 door 131,430
98
98 Luxury 2 door 2,956
98 Luxury 4 door 9,136
98 Regency 2 door 28,573
98 Regency 4 door 78,100
[ Thanks to Mike Jones for this information ]


1979

Model Units Weight Price Notes
Delta 88
2 door 16,202
4 door 25,424
Royale 2 door 60,687
Royale 4 door 152,626
98
Luxury 2 door 2,104
Luxury 4 door 6,720
Regency 2 door 29,965
Regency 4 door 91,862
[ Thanks to Mike Jones for this information ]


1980

Model Units Weight Price Notes
Delta 88
2 door 6,845
4 door 15,285
Royale 2 door 39,303
Royale 4 door 87,178
Delta 88 Royale Brougham 2 and 4 door are included in 88 Royale totals.
98
Luxury 4 door 2,640
Regency 2 door 12,391
Regency 4 door 58,603
[ Thanks to Mike Jones for this information ]


1981

Model Units Weight Price Notes
Delta 88
2 door 3,330
4 door 10,806
Royale 2 door 41,682
Royale 4 door 104,124
Delta 88 Royale Brougham 2 and 4 door are included in 88 Royale totals.
98
Luxury 1,957
Regency 2 door 13,696
Regency 4 door 74,017
[ Thanks to Mike Jones for this information ]


1982

Model Units Weight Price Notes
Delta 88
4 door 8,278
Royale 2 door 41,382
Royale 4 door 105,184
Delta 88 Royale Brougham 2 and 4 door are included in 88 Royale totals.
98
Regency 2 door 11,832
Regency 4 door 79,135
Regency Brougham 4 door is included in basic sedan total.
[ Thanks to Mike Jones for this information ]


1983

Model Units Weight Price Notes
Delta 88
4 door 8,297
Royale 2 door 54,771
Royale 4 door 132,683
Delta 88 Royale Brougham 2 and 4 door are included in 88 Royale totals.
98
Regency 2 door 13,816
Regency 4 door 105,948
98 regency Brougham 4 door is inculded in basic sedan total.
[ Thanks to Mike Jones for this information ]


1984

Model Units Weight Price Notes
Delta 88
Royale 2 door 23,387
Royale 4 door 87,993
Royale Brougham 2 door 41,913
Royale Brougham 4 door 89,450
Royale Brougham LS 4 door 17,064
98
Regency 2 door 7,855
Regency 4 door 26,919
Regency Brougham 4 door 43,059
This was the last year of the RWD-C body chassis.
[ Thanks to Mike Jones for this information ]


1985

Model Units Weight Price Notes
Delta 88
Royale 2 door 15,002
Royale 4 door 69,641
Royale Brougham 2 door 31,891
Royale Brougham 4 door 72,103
Royale Brougham LS 4 door 30,239
This was the last year of the RWD-B body chassis.
[ Thanks to Mike Jones for this information ]


1986-1998

Front wheel drive platform.

General Motors officially retired the Oldsmobile 88, the Detroit News reported today. After 50 years of production, the Olds 88 was America's longest continuous car brand. Ten million 88s (10,076,295 to be exact) were built before the last one rolled off the assembly line Jan. 6, 1999 at the Orion (Orion Township, Mich.) Assembly Plant. GM introduced the Futuramic 88 convertible in 1949 with the slogan, "Make a date with the Rocket 88."

[ Thanks to Jeff Hunter, Ray Kelly, Joe, Daniel A. Gulino, Scott, Paul Elosge, Roger Currie, Tony, Bill Culp, Thomas Martin, Graham Stewart, Bob Barry for this information ]



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